Interview with S. Sandilya

Chairman, Eicher Motors Ltd. & President, SIAM

Date: 02 Dec 2011
S. Sandilya, Chairman, Eicher Motors Ltd. & President, SIAM

Company Description: Eicher Motors Limited, incorporated in 1982, is the flagship company of the Eicher Group in India and a leading player in the Indian automobile industry. Its 50-50 joint venture with the Volvo group, VE Commercial Vehicles Limited, designs, manufactures and markets reliable, fuel-efficient commercial vehicles of high quality and modern technology, engineering components and provides engineering design solutions. Eicher Motors manufactures and markets the iconic Royal Enfield motorcycles. Eicher Motors recorded revenue of over US$ 1 billion (4,500 crore approximately) in 2010.

 

You started your career in 1969 with DCM group of companies. After a year’s stint with DCM and 5 years with Union Carbide, you joined Eicher in 1975. So how has the journey been for you? Has it been a satisfying experience?

I think it’s been extremely satisfying. I started my career with DCM in the area of finance as a senior management trainee. After being in that area (of finance), I switched over to Union Carbide in Finance and Systems. In Eicher also, I joined the finance department to start with. And moving up the ladder from 1975 to 2011, it’s been a 36-year excellent journey for me. From Finance, I moved over to General Manager, Management and eventually became the Group Chairman and Chief Executive in 2000. After 6 years in that position I am now the Non-Executive Chairman since 2006. It’s been a good learning experience.

 

What are the unfinished tasks before you in the company? Are there any strategies that you have in mind?

We normally look at it from the perspective of task and finishing. But my take on that it is a continuous journey. There is no end to any organisation’s growth. It’s a continuous journey and if you look at it from Eicher’s perspective, we started up as a small company. When I had joined, the company just had a 3 crore-turnover. Today it’s worth more than a billion dollars. So the company has grown, we have multiple products. It’s a well diversified company. So therefore, we had our own ups and downs depending on the business cycles. But as I just said, it’s a continuous journey.  Today, wherever we have reached, it is not something we are content with what we have done.  There is a long way to go and there are still a lot of opportunities to explore. As a company, we would be looking for a significant growth.

 

How has the JV with Volvo panned out? How has it helped Eicher in fulfilling its objective?

If you look at it from the perspective of Eicher, we have worked with a lot of joint ventures. And the joint venture with Volvo has been very satisfying. I must say that both the partners have been able to click very well with each other. And it’s a matching of cultures, if I may say. And it has benefited both. We have learnt in the process-- in terms of products, range, etc. The partnership has been so positive that Volvo has chosen to manufacture medium-duty engines for global markets in Pithampur.

 

Are you in talks with the government to introduce a ‘Cash for clunkers’ policy, especially for high-polluting trucks?

From the SIAM’s perspective, we have always been recommending during the Annual Union Budget exercises  that we much incentivise the removal of old vehicles (15 years and more) from the roads. This would be good from various angles because we will be able to bring the environment pollution under control. Secondly, with the advent of new technology in modern trucks, we will be able to reduce fuel consumption which will ultimately result in the conservation of fossil fuels. When you talk about “Cash for Clunkers’, it may be not be literally in cash. There are other mechanisms to incentivise the whole programme. It could be through some kind of duty redemption or by penalisation with high road tax on older vehicles. In my opinion, it is essential.  And it should not be a one-time policy, rather a continuous exercise. The government is also aware of this (menace of polluting trucks) and is in favour of doing away with it. It is not so easy to take a decision on such matters in a democratic nation like India. Some state governments have already rolled out scrappage policies. I believe it should be done in a concerted manner.

 

The company is operating in various verticals like trucks, bikes (with RE)? What about passenger vehicles, especially cars? Are you exploring that segment too?

As you know, Eicher is already present in the bus segment which is a passenger vehicle. But we have no plans to foray full-time into the passenger vehicle segment by way of cars at present. It is a question of strategic decision for company which may change as the time passes.

 

What kind of learnings have you derived from your erstwhile JV partner with Mitsubishi for LCVs? Are you still in talks with the Japanese firm?

Although we are not in talks with them now, we have benefited immensely in terms of product platform and technology. Eicher started with LCVs with Mitsubishi, i.e. 6-tonner Canter vehicles that were brought into this country.  Besides being highly-fuel-efficient, it was the best vehicle in its class in those days. And on that platform, we have built a number of vehicles and variants. And we have made a complete range i.e. from 5-40 tonner vehicles by extending the technology and upgrading. That included a variety of products like tippers, trucks, etc.   These are the learnings that we got from the aforementioned Japanese firm in terms of technology of the product. We have also learnt a lot in terms of manufacturing processes technology. We have also learnt how to make a highly productive work environment and how to keep your investments low.  At one point of time, our workers from Pithampur went to Mitsubishi’s plant in Japan to learn certain processes and shop floor practices. Although they went as trainees, they were actually working on the lines and that gave them the understanding of the high level of productivity that the Japanese companies were known for.  So when the Indian workers came back with a high orientation on productivity and quality, it has helped us tremendously. We have also learnt on capital investments, vendor development, technology transfer, complete indegenisation. As you might know, Eicher was the first JV with a Japanese company to indigenise 100pc of the vehicles. This enabled us to learn a lot about the nuances of component technology and therefore we could develop parts in the country. Ultimately, this aided our quest for faster indigenisation. We became a profitable sustaining company among the 4 Indo-Japanese CV collaborators.

 

Any plans to set up greenfield facilities abroad? Any plans to get the company listed on overseas’ stock markets?

At present, we neither have any plans for an overseas facility, nor do we intend to get listed on stock exchanges in other countries.

 

Please can you talk about the R&D centre run by Eicher? What is the current headcount and what kind of activities is carried out there?

In the area of product development, we are focusing on three areas. One is in CV segment, the other one is Royal Enfield motorcycles, and we have our Engineering Services which is into a lot of design work for auto and non-auto customers. Most of our products are developed with indigenous technology with a lot of focus on our own engineers conceiving and designing the products. And it has been very cost-effective way of product development. Moreover, Eicher has been the first to implement, Quality Function Deployment (QFD), which is a method to transform user needs (customer voice) into product design, and to deploy methods for achieving the design quality into subsystems and component parts, and ultimately to specific elements of the manufacturing process. Product development is one of our strong points which enable us to define and develop products which are suited to customer requirements. Similarly, in the motorcycle segment (Royal Enfield), we have a variety of products and variants. As far as EES (Eicher Engineering Services) is concerned, we use extremely modern software and do engineering designs of components and aggregates for a number of customers. It’s also an export-oriented business. A lot of non-Indian companies would love to have some design work done in India because of the cost equation.

 

Was it a conscious move by the company not to go below 5 tonnes?

The point is we didn’t get into the one tonner or two-tonner segments. However, we were one of the first ones to explore such segments many years ago. We were also eyeing small engines for such ‘ultra-light vehicles’. But at that time, the engine had to be imported from a foreign partner. But that partner decided not to come to India and enter China instead. Hence we abandoned that project. Subsequently, we took a conscious decision not to enter the segment.

 

Lastly, being the president of SIAM please can you delineate your thoughts on the Indian automobile industry? How is it shaping up? What are the challenges? Are we expecting another kind of a slowdown?

First of all, the Indian automobile industry has grown from very small levels to being a very significant player in the world. The current growth rate that we have had in the last few years has been very good. The domestic market accounts for a major chunk of the volumes. The demand is still huge here as there is a higher buying potential. The market is offering so many opportunities that every global automobile manufacturer is setting up their assembly / manufacturing operations here. A lot of investments have flowed in. The government has also recognised that the automobile industry can contribute significantly to the economic growth.  Therefore, they have come with an Automotive Mission Plan (AMP). This will generate a lot of employment opportunities and millions of dollars of investment. There is also a lot of focus on the Indian auto component industry.  Keeping all these factors in mind, the automobile and its affiliated industry is expected to place us pretty well in the global arena. However, we do expect a slowdown in the near term. I don’t think the cycles are easily predictable. There are some challenges too in the areas of infrastructure, fuel prices, interest rates, skill development, etc. With the economic growth predicted between 7-8pc this year and a better growth thereafter, the Indian automobile industry is poised for a significant growth. 


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